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« on: July 13, 2006, 02:55:04 pm »

LotD has been granted the first developer interview on a guild site, and we decided to put their motto (listed above) to the test. Unlike fansites who just want fluff for an article, LotD wanted to ask the hard questions. Adam answered nearly all of them, and we were very pleased.  For those questions that he couldn't answer due to design concepts not being finalized, he promised to get back with us later in the fall with those answers.

We plan to submit PVP guild related questions to the dev team every few months, so feel free to submit questions you'd like to see us ask. 



Question 1

Since this game is being labeled a CORPG, it automatically gets put in the same class as Guild Wars. Guild Wars spent a lot of time advertising to the PVP community as "Skill Over Time Spent", and when that turned out not to be true it was a big turn off to the FPS and MMORPG PVP guilds that were lured to the game. Why is Fury different than Guild Wars in terms of "Skill Over Time Spent"?


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In Fury, player skill comes at many levels, and includes both pre-combat planning and also in war zone decisions. Areas of skill the elite players will want to master include:

  • Incarnation construction – Create the best incarnation before you go into battle
  • Situational awareness – Maintain control of your environment at all times by knowing where your enemies are and what they are doing
  • Reaction time – Even though the game isn't twitch, it is very fast paced and your mental reaction time is critical to making the best decision
  • Game Knowledge –Players who know and understand the game will excel
  • Charge Management – Understanding charge creation and consumption, and when you need to sustain charges versus when you can consume them.
  • Teamwork – Solid teamwork and coordination are critical, especially in the largest game types

Fury's power curve for abilities and equipment is very flat. Fury is not like games such as World of Warcraft and DAoC where the max level of an ability is over 15X as powerful as the min level. The primary benefit that comes from time played is diversity

Question 2

We know it's early in the game's development cycle, but what sort of Guild Management Features are you considering to make running and managing a guild easier?


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As many as we can…

I know that's kind of a lame statement, but it's the truth. As a founder and former leader of a Tier 1 guild, I appreciate how critical good management tools are. The better the tools are the stronger guilds will be. The stronger guilds are, the better a game is.

At this point, I don't want to commit any of our specific features to writing. I do hope that when Fury is released, guild leaders and officers will be quite pleased with the management tools available to them.

Question 3

We are aware that Fury intends to have stats and ladders. This is a wonderful feature that will show us the various leaders across the 4 types of war zones. Are there going to be any ladders and stats for direct head to head challenges as well?


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Ladders are great. Fury is going to support a large number of ladders ranking individuals, guilds and realms. One of the design team's goals is to ensure we have ladders that recognize both skill and volume. This ensures that both small roll group type guilds and very large uber guilds are both recognized for their achievements.

We've considered having ladders for challenge matches, but at the current time we've decided against them. In order for ladders to be meaningful, players need to feel like the data is fair. When you can pick your opponent, the exploit potential is too high.

What we are adding is a mechanism that saves all post fight results to a local text file. The results will include the battle's outcome, who received what, rewards, etc. This will make it very easy for guilds and fan sites to compile records of fights as well as host their own unofficial tournaments and ladders.

Question 4

One thing that is critical to a direct challenge type ladder is a guild's ability to practice before fighting a ladder match. Will there be some sort of scrimmage feature so that a guild can practice against itself, and will they be able to do that by selecting actual zone/battle maps that are used in the live matches?


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Fury's challenge system lets players, groups or teams challenge each other. The challenger picks the game type and map and then sends the challenge to his opponent to accept.

The challenge system can be used to test out incarnations against a friend, practice with your guild's team, and compete against another guild on your realm. The only restriction on challenges are that you cannot advance and do not receive any rewards while playing them.

Question 5

We know that people who play on a server will compete against people on other servers. What happens when a guild wants to fight a direct match against a guild from another server?


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We're currently evaluating how best to implement a cross realm challenge system. We want a system whereby team leaders can easily arrange a challenge, yet avoid letting them only pick matches they know they will win and prevent high ranked players getting griefed by repeated spam challenges

Question 6

How long do you anticipate it will take to take to unlock all 200 skills available to an AT? Also do you have to unlock the same skills for every new avatar you create, or are the unlocks good for the entire account?


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In total Fury will have about 400 different abilities. The abilities are divided amongst the eight disciplines giving each one about 50 abilities. As each account only has one avatar, you never have to worry about repeating the same task for each new character. Once you've completed a trial and unlocked an ability you can use it on any incarnation you create.

Abilities are unlocked via Trials, with each Trial unlocking between two to five abilities. Abilities themselves have ten tiers each. The low tiers (1-4) will be completed very quickly. Medium tiers (5-7) will take a moderate amount of time while the high tiers (8-10) can take a good amount of time.

An important part of Fury's advancement/character development/combat is that the increase in power from higher tier abilities isn't monumental like in other games. There should never be a case where players feel like they have to get tier 5 fireball in order to be competitive. Higher tiers are intended let players create more diverse or more specialized incarnations, based on the player's goals.

Question 7

In order to promote guilds in Fury, what sorts of rewards or incentives will there be?


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Guild incentives and rewards will include weekly, monthly and seasonal rewards from ladders; special vendors that provide guild exclusive items or abilities; and a lot more J

We're in the brainstorming stage for specialized guild rewards so I can't commit too many features to writing now. In the coming months we'll be able to provide you with a lot more information.

Question 8

When looking at the various archetypes, we always have to look at the "Healer". PVP guilds always have trouble with this because people hate playing "Heal and Buff Bitch" (pardon my French). The healer is also the first character targeted a majority of the time, and their life expectancy is short. What can you do to make playing a healer more exciting, and change PVP targeting priority so that the healer has time to actually enjoy the match?


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Healers in Fury benefit from the healer not being a defensive only role that the developers dictate. The role of “healer” is whatever a player decides. The actual healer archetype simply indicates that the majority of an avatar's abilities are from the spiritual side of the School of Life and that still leaves plenty of room for the player to add other abilities that can be offensive, defensive, or what ever.

The tendency of players to target Healers first is something we're definitely aware of. To this end, and supported by Fury's classless system, we've created a strong encouragement for healers to use a specific type of armor without creating a rigid requirement. All armor in the game grants percentile bonuses to a specific school and/or discipline. This creates a realistic expectation on the part of players that someone wearing scale armor is from the School of Life, while someone wearing leather armor is from the School of Growth. However, there is nothing requiring players to wear that armor. Thus a healer who is tired of being attacked first has the option of decreasing their healing efficiency by dressing themselves in another style of armor.

Of course, there are always the benefits of a defensive stance. I'll get into them at some other time Smiley

Question 9

Considering that the PVP community is very word of mouth oriented can you give a brief summary of why a competitive PVP guild would want to consider Fury as a possible future game instead of other titles that currently exist or are planned to be released in 2007?


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With Fury we're not trying to create a virtual world, we're making a competitive game that's a bit like a sport. At the casual and amateur levels, Fury is pure fun. Jut like you and your mates can get together for a game of basketball or hockey, you can drop into Fury and play a few matches, advance your character, get some loot, and gain some prestige. At the high end, just like with professional sports, Fury is a game about serious competition between serious teams. Whether you're a small, medium or large guild, one of the game types will be ideal for your numbers and play style.

Fury gives players brutal, in your face combat where real skill matters. This isn't twitch skill, it's mental knowledge and responsiveness. To compete seriously in the end game you'll want to: 

  • Construct the best individual incarnations
  • Coordinate to construct the best group/team incarnations
  • Be able to recognize your opponent's strategies and work together to stop them
  • Learn the maps and then work as a team to ensure all the critical points are controlled by your team, not theirs.
  • In combat, you'll need to manage your charges effectively and be able to shift quickly between sustained DPS/healing and burst DPS/healing

Ultimately serious PVP guilds will want to make a decision about what they want. The options that I see for them are:

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Standard PVE MMO that has occasional PVP elements

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Persistent world PVP MMO where the emphasis is on grinding levels as fast as possible so that your clan will dominate before all the casuals get driven from the server/game.

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Fury with its focus on serious competition against well matched opponents.

Option number 1 isn't of interest to serious PVPr's. Under option 2, you have to hope your server has at least 3-5 powerhouse guilds that refuse to ally. If it doesn't, then one group will dominate and the lion's share of players will quit within 2-3 months.

Fury, with its unique server architecture and game design, is different. Fury is a game about challenging combat. It's a game where you can take real pride in defeating an equally skilled opponent. Above all, Fury is a game about fun at all levels, regardless of whether you are playing at the pickup, casual, or professional levels
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2006, 04:29:16 pm »

I like that it sounds like these guys or at least this person, get's it. Get's what people need in a casual game yet keeping it competitive for those who want to be more serious. Overall the concept of the pure pvp game is making me drool.

Very good interview, as time passes I hope we can really pick their brains into the world that is Fury Online.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2006, 05:36:28 pm »

Im loving it.

If the grind is anything more than 100 hours I'll refuse to buy this game.  I want to jump in and use whatever skills my guild needs me to use on the spot.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 05:58:56 pm »

A small to moderate grind is acceptable to me provided I only have to do it once ever.  If that grind is accomplished through PvP (as they describe) so much the better.

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As a confirmed alt-o-holic and a lover of filling multiple team roles, that one statement probably sells the game to me more than anything else.  I'm getting bit with that hard in CoV at the moment and, frankly, it's kind of turning me off the game.

They're saying all the right things, as far as my interests go.  I definitely look foward to more details and seeing the beta.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2006, 07:46:19 pm »

This game has grabbed my attention. 

Not many games do.

That's a big plus =)
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 08:36:20 pm »

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As a confirmed alt-o-holic and a lover of filling multiple team roles, that one statement probably sells the game to me more than anything else.  I'm getting bit with that hard in CoV at the moment and, frankly, it's kind of turning me off the game.

They're saying all the right things, as far as my interests go.  I definitely look foward to more details and seeing the beta.


Hopefully with our long trek through guildwars alpha as the first long standing pvp guild to enter the testing process, they will look at us and possibly let us help them make this game the best pvp game ever. I am sure we would stop all efforts to jump into the alpha for this game, roll up our sleeves and get to work.

We gave a year to Guildwars and they changed on us at release, but we gave many, many, good ideas and suggestions. Many were used during the beta, but many also got axed at release so they could cater some pve....

Here is too hoping.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2006, 01:48:22 am »

Sounds sweet!

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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2006, 02:04:34 pm »

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But all I wanted to hear is: "It will be impossible to coordinate spikes that kill someone in under 1 seconds and repeat those spikes every 5ish seconds."  This guildwars lightning orb or obsidian flame spikes.

Meh I would hope that the damage on stuff is so powerful that you can spike someone with 3 offensive characters (hell even 4).  If you can then the game just got stupid as the damage characters can do is retarded, but I doubt it.  Even in the 32v32 matches I doubt spiking will be prevalent if they design the missions right where you don't gain an advantage for everyone to move in a zerg.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2006, 07:47:31 pm »

I don't know what you bitches are complaining about. This game sounds 100x times better than CoV. I can't wait.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2006, 08:36:59 pm »

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I don't know what you bitches are complaining about. This game sounds 100x times better than CoV. I can't wait.

I've played a healer type of caracter most of the time in Guildwars.  Trust me, when fighting a 6 elementalist team, the game just sucked.  Before they nerfed chain lightning, you could kill 3 players in a single spike from a team of 8.  Chain lightning has a very small cooldown too...

The fact this game is still in development means a lot.  There are still some tweaking possible if we give input during beta.  Maybe you missed my point, I never said the game sucked, hell I did a 2 page review about it.  All I said is the stuff they said about healers was bullshit meant for the noob healer type that doesn't want to face his responsabilities.
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Let me explain again what I was trying to say:

Healer can choose to be hybrid offensive and defensive.  A caracter, depending on how many trials he has done, has a certain rank.  This rank provide him a certain amount of points he will use on skill and/or equipment.  If you go hybrid, you spread your points thin between what you need to be effective in defense, offense.  Thus you are stuck with the crappiest armor in the game.

Healer can choose not to wear "life" armor so they dont get targeted first.  Lets all gimp ourselves because we're afraid to take damage right away.  I've never seen a single game where a 100% defensive healer caracter had to be afraid to show his colors, unless facing an overpowered team of spikers.  Think 4vs4 arena in guildwars, a healer can stay up for a very, very long time if well played.  But again, to do that, you need to have every single bonus you can get and stick to a defensive role.


So in other word, their answer were directed toward the casual player who wants to stay up a little longer to enjoy the fight while his teamate are being crushed because he can't help them well enough.  For us hardcore guild fighting in the ladders, nothing that was said was good.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2006, 09:39:52 pm »

Hmm...that was a long post.

I'm just saying, this game sound way better than CoV. And thats all that matters.
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